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Rumor: ¿Tarjetas madre zocalo AM4 y bancos DDR4 para inicios del 2016?
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Este es un rumor que lanza planet3dnow.com [¡¿aun existe?!], sobre la posibilidad de que AMD lance tarjetas madre de zocalo AM4 y bancos de memoria para modulos DDR4, en febrero/marzo del 2016.


http://www.planet3dnow.de/cms/21487-geru...ngenommen/


Este rumor a dado pie a la especulacion [que ya anteriormente se habia creado] de que AMD plane sacar procesadores APU, que sean mejora de Carrizo [serian los APU Bristol Ridge], aun con la arquitectura CMT y con nucleos Excavator. Y cuya finalidad fuera probar el rendimiento real del nuevo zocalo AM4 y chipsets y hacer los ajustes finales para el procesador de nucleos ZEN que saldrian a finales del 2016 o inicios del 2017.

Como ya sabemos Zen sera un nucleo basado en arquitectura SMT [como lo viene haciendo intel desde hace años], con lo que abandonaria su concepto de arquitectura CMT de sus actuales procesadoers FX y APUs Trinity, richland, kavery y carrizo.

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wccftech.com ha creado una tabla con las especulaciones del supuesto APU Bristol Ridge.
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TechPowerUp ha publicado las fotos de una supuesta tarjeta madre con este nuevo zocalo AM4.

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Y esta vez AMD rompiendo mas de una decada de compatibilidad a modificado el diseño del anclaje para el disipador, obligando a los gfabricantes a sacar versiones de sus productos de disipacion preparados con KITs para la nueva forma de fijar el disipador.

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#3
Si este rumor es cierto, de la salida en Octubre de las primeras tarjetas madre AM4, pues seria bueno para cuando salga ZEN esten ya pulidos controladores y demas, por fin un solo zocalo tanto para APUs como para los procesadores de gama alta [quiza igual llamados FX]


http://wccftech.com/amd-am4-motherboards-debut-october
Khalid Moammer, wccftech.com escribió:Rumor : AMD Zen & Bristol Ridge AM4 Motherboards Coming In October

AMD’s upcoming AM4 motherboards for Zen & Bristol Ridge are said to be debuting in October according to chatter by motherboard partners. Rumor has it that AMD’s motherboard partners will be showing off their next generation AM4 socket based motherboards in a couple of months.

Bristol Ridge APUs for the desktop are set to launch around the same time. AMD’s hotly anticipated high performance Zen FX processors will be available shortly afterwards. According to President & CEO Lisa Su, desktop Zen FX processors will see wide availability in Q1 2017 and could see limited availability in late 2016 depending on ramp up and yield.
One thing that AMD has hinted at during its recent performance demonstration of Zen which wowed the press, is that we’ll see Zen on display at CES in January of 2017. That’s when desktop Zen FX CPUs are also expected to launch.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/225593/amd-u...sktop-apus


Primeras noticias de los chipsets southbridge [o parte de el] para estas tarjetas AM4 si vemos estas diapositivas. Habra una parte del southbridge en la tarjeta madre [y otra en el procesador aparte del Northbridge], y dependiendo de la gama tendra uno de los tres chipsets para escritorio: A320 para la gama baja, B350 para gama media y aun sin nombre otro TBA para la gama alta super-entusiasta.

Estos chipsets de la tarjeta madre se encargaran de algfunosp uertos USB extra, la controladora RAID, el manejo del SATA Express aparte de algunas Lanes PCIE mas.

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#5
Ya aparece el nombre del Chipset de gama alta, y que sera el X370

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http://www.tweaktown.com/news/53862/amds...index.html

Anthony Garreffa, tweaktown.com escribió:AMD's high-end X370 chipset teased, arrives in Feb 2017 AMD's next-gen Zen CPUs will use the high-end X370 chipset, will arrive in February 2017

AMD will be launching its next-gen Zen architecture in February 2017, alongside a new high-end X370 series chipset. The news is coming from Benchlife, teasing the Bristol Ridge series of APUs based on the Excavator CPU architecture, and GCN 3.0-based graphics architecture. amds-high-end-x370-chipset-teased-arrives-feb-2017_02

The upcoming AM4 socket will be split into three different chipsets, with the high-end X370 leading the way, and behind it we have the B350 and A320 chipsets. The Zen FX-based CPUs will be part of the upcoming Summit Ridge family of processors, including PCIe 3.0 support, dual channel DDR4 memory controllers, lots of L3 cache, updated storage features including USB 3.1 and NVMe, and more. We can also expect to see CPUs arrive with between 4/8 cores with 8/16 threads, and consuming between 65-95W of power.

Motherboard makers are already reportedly building their inventories of X370-based motherboards, with companies preparing to unveil some of their AM4 motherboards in October. AMD will most likely show off their Zen CPUs and new X370 chipset during CES 2017 in January.
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#6
EL zocalo AM4 [1331 pins] tiene 40% mas de pines que el anterior AM3+ [942 pins], mide 4x4cm y soportara hasta 24 LANES PCIE, color blanco y el mismo sistema de fijacion usado desde la primera version.


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A decir verdad, me hubiera gustado algo mejor para identificar la posicion del CPU para colocarlo, pudiera haber sido algo asi:

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#7
¿Y a dónde le pico para ver porno con uno de esos aparatos?
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#8
yeyopes me gusta mas el zocalo de las 1151 , no se corre el riesgo que se doblen los pines =D
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#9
La cosa es que quiza este patentado y por ello AMD y otros no puedan usar ese sistema de insersiond e intel.
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#10
Parece ser que veremos el chip X370 'trabajando' para enero del 2017, junto con la primera muestra del CPU Zen, esto dentro del evento CES 2017 [Feria de Tecnologias al consumidor en estados unidos] alla en la Vegas, Nevada. Despues del evento se comenzaria la venta al publico, en febrero segun el calendario de AMD, la cual a pedido acelerar la produccion para poder satisfacer la distribucion global a las tiendas.

Cosa curiosa, la tarjeta madre con este chipset de alto rendimiento X370 se comenzara a vender en diciembre de este año. Esperemos no se requieran de actualizaciones de UEFI de ultima hora para dar compatibilidad al CPU ZEN.

http://digitimes.com/news/a20161003PD200.html
digitimes.com escribió:Following the releases of its Bristol Ridge-based desktop processors in September 2016, AMD's Zen-based CPUs and its corresponding high-end X370 chipsets will make their arrivals at CES 2017 in January. To achieve a smooth transition, AMD has begun adjusting product prices in order to accelerate inventory digestion. However, since Zen-based products are unlikely to start mass shipments until after February, they are unlikely to start contributing profits until the second quarter 2017, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.

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Zen-based processors will be manufactured on Globalfoundries' 14nm FinFET process, featuring an eight-core-16-thread design. AMD will initially release Zen-based high-performance desktop processors (Summit Ridge), while one for notebooks is scheduled to launch at the end of second-quarter 2017.

The high-end X370 chipsets will be launched at CES 2017, while mainstream B350 and low-end A320 will be unveiled later. X370-based motherboards will begin shipments in December.

ASMedia, which is designing and manufacturing chipsets for AMD's processors, is also expected to see rising revenues with the releases of the new CPUs.
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http://digitimes.com/news/a20161226PD208.html

Las tarjetas madre AM4 de gama alta oficialmente se presentaran en febrero, y para marzo ya se tendra una produccion de todas las gamas que cubra el mercado mundial. Esto de acuerdo a fuentes informativas en DigitalTimes.

Tambien informan que los fabricantes ya estan recibiendo muestras de los diferentes chipsets AM4 por parte de AMD, para que vayan hciendo sus diseños personalizados y depurando el codigo para el UEFI.

Joseph Tsai, digitimes.com escribió:New Ryzen CPU expected to help raise AMD desktop market share in 2Q17

AMD's next-generation 14nm Ryzen series processors will be unveiled in the first quarter of 2017 and the new platform will be officially released at the end of February and enter global mass shipments in March, according to sources from motherboard players. Optimistic about its high price/performance ratio, motherboard players have been rather aggressive about placing orders for related motherboards recently and some even believe demand for the new platform will increase AMD's share in the worldwide desktop processor market in the second quarter of 2017.

The sources also expect the platform's demand to increase shipments of AMD's 14nm Polaris-based GPUs and upcoming Vega GPUs.

Ryzen series CPUs are manufactured by GlobalFoundries' 14nm FinFET process and the notebook version will arrive in the second half of 2017.

The sources pointed out that they have started receiving high-end X370, mainstream B350 and entry-level A320 chipsets from AMD and are now in the final stage of finishing related testing and motherboard designing.

Thanks to Polaris series graphics card's strong demand, AMD's GPU market share has recently returned to 30% and with Ryzen's promotions and new Vega series products, the sources expect AMD's share to have a chance to return to 40% by the end of 2017.

In addition to motherboard players, AMD's chipset designer ASMedia is also expected to have a chance to enjoy growing revenues in 2017.

With stable demand for semi-customize solutions from game console players, Polaris GPUs being accepted in Apple's new 15-inch MacBook Pro and new CPU and GPU platforms, AMD is expected to see growing profits for 2017.
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#12
Desde techPowerUp traen imagen de la tarjeta madre de gama alta AM4. Muestran el puro PCB aun sin componetes soldados.

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GIGABYTE AX370-Gaming K3 Socket AM4 Motherboard PCB Pictured


The picture of a bare PCB of an upcoming GIGABYTE AX370-Gaming series socket AM4 motherboard is doing rounds on the web. The picture reveals the bare PCB of the motherboard with all its traces and printed markings, but at a stage before surface-mount components can be soldered onto it. One can still make out quite a bit about the board. AMD X370 is the company's upcoming high-end desktop chipset, which will be launched alongside the company's Ryzen 8-core processor, some time in February, 2017.

To begin with, the AX370-Gaming K3 is built in the ATX form-factor. Its AM4 socket supports both Ryzen "Summit Ridge" CPUs and 7th generation A-series "Bristol Ridge" APUs. The board draws power from 24-pin ATX and 8-pin EPS power connectors, and conditions it for the CPU with a 7-phase VRM. The AM4 socket is wired to four DDR4 DIMM slots. Expansion slots include one PCI-Express 3.0 x16, a second gen 3.0 x16 slot that's electrical x4, and three other gen 3.0 x1 slots. Storage connectivity appears to include at least eight SATA 6 Gb/s ports, and one 32 Gb/s M.2 slot. 8-channel HD audio, gigabit Ethernet, USB 3.1 (including type-C) ports, appear to make for the rest of the connectivity. GIGABYTE's signature Dual-UEFI is featured.


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Y sobre los precios de las tarjetas madre y la demanda, los fabricantes estan optimistas, segun DigiTimes.

Link original
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20161226PD208.html

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/motherb...-x370.html
Motherboard makers Optimistic about price performance ratio AMD RYZEN and X370


Digitimes did a round at the motherboard manufacturers (refers to them as sources) and verified that they had been sampled Ryzen. It seems they are even aggressive in their purchase orders. Also mentioned is VEGA.

Digitimes: AMD's next-generation 14nm Ryzen series processors will be unveiled in the first quarter of 2017 and the new platform will be officially released at the end of February and enter global mass shipments in March, according to sources from motherboard players. Optimistic about its high price/performance ratio, motherboard players have been rather aggressive about placing orders for related motherboards recently and some even believe demand for the new platform will increase AMD's share in the worldwide desktop processor market in the second quarter of 2017.

The sources also expect the platform's demand to increase shipments of AMD's 14nm Polaris-based GPUs and upcoming Vega GPUs.

Ryzen series CPUs are manufactured by GlobalFoundries' 14nm FinFET process and the notebook version will arrive in the second half of 2017.

The sources pointed out that they have started receiving high-end X370, mainstream B350 and entry-level A320 chipsets from AMD and are now in the final stage of finishing related testing and motherboard designing.

Thanks to Polaris series graphics card's strong demand, AMD's GPU market share has recently returned to 30% and with Ryzen's promotions and new Vega series products, the sources expect AMD's share to have a chance to return to 40% by the end of 2017.

In addition to motherboard players, AMD's chipset designer ASMedia is also expected to have a chance to enjoy growing revenues in 2017.

With stable demand for semi-customize solutions from game console players, Polaris GPUs being accepted in Apple's new 15-inch MacBook Pro and new CPU and GPU platforms, AMD is expected to see growing profits for 2017.
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#14
Ya se estan prsentando las diferenjtes gamas de tarjetas AM4

MSI
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GigaByte
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http://videocardz.com/65399/amd-showcase...y-partners
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#15
Pues tocara ver "revuis" y saber si AMD la caga o de plano si rifa
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(05-01-2017, 05:01 PM)TRASTARO escribió: Ya se estan prsentando las diferenjtes gamas de tarjetas AM4

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BioStar
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http://videocardz.com/65399/amd-showcase...y-partners

orale y siempre si se podra poner el mismo disipador, o a huevo hay que comprar uno nuevo?
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(06-01-2017, 10:17 PM)pepito_pateatraseros escribió: ..y siempre si se podra poner el mismo disipador ..

El sistema de montaje es diferente, asi que hay que comprar sistemas de enfriamiento que tengan anclaje para el zocalo AM4. Del cual ya hay oficialmente dos marcas.

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Algo mas de los chipsets y soporte.
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Y en si en este lugar dicen que todos los RyZEN vienen desbloqueados, asi como paso con la serie FX.
http://techreport.com/news/31228/amd-sho...rds-at-ces


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#18
Y pus ya estan saliendo las version de rfrigeracion liquida para AM4.

EK waterblocks ofrece el backplate para sus sistemas actuales [lo compras en la tienda de su pagina], y este ya vendra inlcuido en los modelos que salgan este año

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#19
AMD dice que AM4 tendra hasta el 2020 como minimo de funcionalidad. Tambien hablan de que el sucesor AM4+ tendria soporte a DDR5 y PCIE 4



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